Something about non format wants me to just delve into the world of type... I know that type isn't just about knowing the rules but having an eye for detail. Unfortunately I don't have that as a natural talent but I have a feeling that the passion to learn helps, I think type can be so expressive to feelings, emotions and moods. Luckily thats something I can express, the changes of a persona through the day...

I am so fortunate to be learning type from Catherine Dixon and Phil Baines, they can just see something and run off with critical points thats wrong about it but Catherine is so polite about it and Phil is just straight forward because he knows what he is talking about... So I don't mess with them, I take in what they have said and just completely agree because once I make those changes to that piece of work, it some how transforms to being on the way to something that is at their standard... that, that standard is what I want to go towards...

The similarities between the designers I have mentioned have, non format are like the driving force of innovative and almost aesthetic based spin on the traditions of type where as I respect Catherine and Phil like the masters of traditional type. Although their current work has its own right today, its breathtakingly beautiful. I have never really had a real strong respect for something other than type and even the few things I do know make a big difference towards my work.